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we are the greatest economy on earth. we pay our bills. we always have. you know, if congress wants to reduce spending, that should be part of the negotiations that go into making decisions about how we spend, you know, the programs we spend money on, and the president's very interested in reducing spending and reducing our deficits, but you don't default on the economy. that is -- we saw -- >> [inaudible] >> yes. we saw what happened in 2011, and it's unacceptable. >> did the president have to chance to speak to republicans last night at the reception here about the fiscal cliff? >> i won't read out conversations. the president and first lady met with scores and scores of lawmakers last night as is the norm in a situation like this, but i'm not going to read out individual conversations. >> [inaudible] >> i've seen a report that speaker boehner was not part of the receiving line, but the president has conversations with speaker boehner with some regularity and looks forward to speaking with him again. >> last question then. both sides have given their pr
we are the greatest economy on earth. we pay our bills. we always have. you know, if congress wants to reduce spending, that should be part of the negotiations that go into making decisions about how we spend, you know, the programs we spend money on, and the president's very interested in reducing spending and reducing our deficits, but you don't default on the economy. that is -- we saw -- >> [inaudible] >> yes. we saw what happened in 2011, and it's unacceptable. >> did the...
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i also think we are an economy that is driven by consumer demand. i cannot think of anything that would be more guaranteed to put the economy in a recession than increasing the price of all goods and services that we purchase by 20-25%. >> host: we'll give brad on twitter the last word here. he says negotiate and simplify, let the republicans lower taxes and get rid of the amt. john buckley, thank you for your help this morning in helping us try to understand the alternative minimum tax, appreciate it. >> guest: okay, good. >> in a few moments, a discussion of house spending cuts in the so-called fiscal cliff. in a little less than an hour, more about the fiscal cliff with republican representative tom cole from oklahoma. then the head of fema testifies on capitol hill about the government's response to hurricane sandy. and later, senate debate on the u.n. treaty for the disabled. ♪ ♪ >> this weekend on c-span3's american history tv, follow harry truman easeleddest grandson to hiroshima as the city prepared to mark the bombing of the city in 194
i also think we are an economy that is driven by consumer demand. i cannot think of anything that would be more guaranteed to put the economy in a recession than increasing the price of all goods and services that we purchase by 20-25%. >> host: we'll give brad on twitter the last word here. he says negotiate and simplify, let the republicans lower taxes and get rid of the amt. john buckley, thank you for your help this morning in helping us try to understand the alternative minimum tax,...
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i have only seen one study of the various options for how the economy will react if, for example, we raised more money than simply fail. were we fail without a sharp interest rate. another scenario would be to have a repeat of the suez canal situation. if they don't pull their troops out of the suez canal, when they were going to take it over, we wouldn't roll over their debt. i am just not sure as i go from seminar to seminar if the debt, this morning, for example, there is no one sitting there that says i am the person who represents the debt, the negative cost and that of continuing where we are going. had we adequately communicated that, but it's not just an individual reelection at stake, it is jobs at stake. .. >> what does it take for us to grow? investment the future. investment, it equipment equipment, education, infras tructure.e question many people don't want to consider is where do we get those resources with the enormous debt? hi asked if they bled paint her reasonable picture of the interest cost if we did nothing. their estimate was follows, within 25 years the intere
i have only seen one study of the various options for how the economy will react if, for example, we raised more money than simply fail. were we fail without a sharp interest rate. another scenario would be to have a repeat of the suez canal situation. if they don't pull their troops out of the suez canal, when they were going to take it over, we wouldn't roll over their debt. i am just not sure as i go from seminar to seminar if the debt, this morning, for example, there is no one sitting...
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all the major economies are in that region including ours. seven of the ten largest armies in that region. you can put all the continents in the world in the pacific ocean, you can put 'em all in the pacific ocean and still have room for another africa, another canada, another united states and another mexico. and that's just in the pacific. the indian ocean is vast as well. so you have this really large, very dynamic -- can't even call it a region. it's half the world. where you have historical ties between countries, bilateral, multilateral, and you have this -- there's no one security organization that's able to deal with things such as a nato. and i don't think you'll ever get to that because it's such a vast and diverse region. and so we have to rely on and have to support these multilateral organizations that allow us to capitalize on where we have like interests and to not be afraid to allow other countries to lead in those areas. so now to the earlier question, you know, we very much support india military, india taking a leadership i
all the major economies are in that region including ours. seven of the ten largest armies in that region. you can put all the continents in the world in the pacific ocean, you can put 'em all in the pacific ocean and still have room for another africa, another canada, another united states and another mexico. and that's just in the pacific. the indian ocean is vast as well. so you have this really large, very dynamic -- can't even call it a region. it's half the world. where you have...
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our economy is consumer driven. the more consumers that more money, the better it is for small businesses like me. this puts $2,000 to $3,000 in the hands of regular, ordinary working people who will spend it. the lower taxes on the rich just sends more money outside of our community, outside of our country to make bankers in the cayman islands happy. i am happy to see the president ask regular legislators to contact their legislators. >> do you think the president is trying to make this thing happen? >> i really got the feeling that they understood the stakes here. while they really wanted to hear from us, what they heard from the dozen small business people in the room who represented about 150,000 in our various progressive small business organizations was don't raise taxes on the middle class, tax the rich more. there were even calls in that room for higher minimum wages. clearly, no one wants to cut out the safety net that working people are promised for their lives of diligence, using their brains and brawn to
our economy is consumer driven. the more consumers that more money, the better it is for small businesses like me. this puts $2,000 to $3,000 in the hands of regular, ordinary working people who will spend it. the lower taxes on the rich just sends more money outside of our community, outside of our country to make bankers in the cayman islands happy. i am happy to see the president ask regular legislators to contact their legislators. >> do you think the president is trying to make this...
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. >> you're not going to grow the economy if you raise tax rates on the top two rates. we're willing to put revenue on the table as long as we're not raising rates. >> but that didn't stop congressman cole from going on hardball today continuing to sell the idea of making peace with the president for the sake of 98% of american taxpayers. >> if the president's willing to accept 80% of the bush tax cuts for 98% of the american people and make them permanent, i think that is a point we should agree op. >> tom cole also made it clear he is still a boehner loyalist. >> i fully support him. what he's trying to achieve, which is no rate increase, but try and meet the president partway on revenue. i support that. i suspect he'll negotiate a good deal. at the end of the day, he'll come back and ask us to support him. i'll probably help him again. >> okay, so, what did boehner loyalist tom cole do after they said that on "hardball" at 5:00? now, remember, john boehner heard him say that on "hardball" or his staff instantly reported to him exactly what tom cole just said on "hard
. >> you're not going to grow the economy if you raise tax rates on the top two rates. we're willing to put revenue on the table as long as we're not raising rates. >> but that didn't stop congressman cole from going on hardball today continuing to sell the idea of making peace with the president for the sake of 98% of american taxpayers. >> if the president's willing to accept 80% of the bush tax cuts for 98% of the american people and make them permanent, i think that is a...
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it will hurt small businesses, hurt our economy. it's why it's not the right approach. >> now, you can agree or disagree with that position. however, keeping them honest, house speaker john boehner and other top republicans trying to justify it in part by playing down the fact that president obama and democrats got a significant boost from voters. >> in politics, there is always a temptation among those who win office to think they have a mandate to do what they will. >> i don't think so because they also re-elected the house republicans. so whether people intended or not, we've got a divided government. >> the american people have also made clear there is no mandate for raising tax rates. >> keeping them honest, president obama campaigned and won on letting taxes go up for the top earners, so his victory throws a little cold water on that claim. democrats gained seats in the senate and the house and recent cnn/rnc polling shows more than 2 in 3 support tax hikes for the wealthy. u.s. a reality that republicans will grapple with fro
it will hurt small businesses, hurt our economy. it's why it's not the right approach. >> now, you can agree or disagree with that position. however, keeping them honest, house speaker john boehner and other top republicans trying to justify it in part by playing down the fact that president obama and democrats got a significant boost from voters. >> in politics, there is always a temptation among those who win office to think they have a mandate to do what they will. >> i...
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we're not bringing the pieces together to bring the economy back where it should be. it's hard to watch the slow motion grind not discussing the issues. what about the discussion of the cap that has been etched into stone, and i'm not sure why. >> i think because there has been so much of a focus on letting the bush tax cuts expire for the top two percent and the discussions got narrowed to that. it has left us in the trillion dollar area as opposed to looking at real corporate tax reform and other ways that revenue can be generated. it looked like congressman defazio was paining a picture of how we can confront that early next year. >> eliot: he's one of our favorites. i don't think he speaks yet unfortunately for the mainstream, i wish he did. >> right. >> eliot: i don't think he does, but i think it's interesting when you hear what eric cantor says and even john boehner. they still will not discuss raising rates. they're willing to go there the charade of loophole closing and this and that, but none of which gets us where we need to be. >> right. it is amazeing to
we're not bringing the pieces together to bring the economy back where it should be. it's hard to watch the slow motion grind not discussing the issues. what about the discussion of the cap that has been etched into stone, and i'm not sure why. >> i think because there has been so much of a focus on letting the bush tax cuts expire for the top two percent and the discussions got narrowed to that. it has left us in the trillion dollar area as opposed to looking at real corporate tax reform...
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suvs that can do things, carry things and still get fuel economy that is good. gerri: let's look at some of the makes and models. would you like to start with tesla? >> sure, let's talk about tesla. it looks a little bit like an amazing vehicle. i have driven in. it is a pretty fast vehicle. it feels like you are driving a ferrari with plenty of room for five people. it is more fuel efficient than a toyota prius. gerri: did tesla have problems in the past? didn't they have trouble testing of these cars? i'm surprised you're so excited. >> well, no, a lot of people get electric carmakers mixed up. there is fisker karma and tesla. just because one has problems doesn't mean the other does. it is actually a proven company that has a record. fisker karma, they are building this one vehicle and it seems to be riddled with problems. gerri: okay, let's talk about the audi a-7. >> yes, drives great. we look at our reliability of information. 1.2 million vehicles, telling us what went wrong with our cars. as florida's. traditionally they have a lot of electrical problems
suvs that can do things, carry things and still get fuel economy that is good. gerri: let's look at some of the makes and models. would you like to start with tesla? >> sure, let's talk about tesla. it looks a little bit like an amazing vehicle. i have driven in. it is a pretty fast vehicle. it feels like you are driving a ferrari with plenty of room for five people. it is more fuel efficient than a toyota prius. gerri: did tesla have problems in the past? didn't they have trouble testing...
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for moving the economy forward. president obama, of course, said on election night that he wanted to sit down with mitt romney and do exactly that. and carney was also asked again if president obama would be offering romney any sort of cabinet position. and carney said he did not expect that to happen. i think this was in large part about optics. striking a tone of bipartisanship after what was really a grueling campaign season. helping these two former rivals to essentially move forward. also, in turn, helping the country to move forward. >> is there going to be an internal release of a picture or something like that of the two-minute lunch today? we only have that, you know, little bit of video of mitt romney arriving. >> reporter: yes. that is what we are hoping for. we're hoping for a picture. we're hoping for a few details about what specifically happened. the white house has essentially said they're not going to read out this entire lunch. we asked them for a transcript. doesn't look like we're going to get th
for moving the economy forward. president obama, of course, said on election night that he wanted to sit down with mitt romney and do exactly that. and carney was also asked again if president obama would be offering romney any sort of cabinet position. and carney said he did not expect that to happen. i think this was in large part about optics. striking a tone of bipartisanship after what was really a grueling campaign season. helping these two former rivals to essentially move forward. also,...
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he used a similar tactic back in 2011 to talk about jobs and the economy. also remember during the payroll tax cut fight, senior administration officials tell me they have gotten more responses during this my2k hash tag initiative than in the past. that stands for $2,000, which is how much taxes would increase. john boehner says this is at a standoff. all sides need to come back to the table at some point to get progress anytime soon. tamron. >> let me bring in congressman chris van hollen. thank you for your time, sir. very busy and saw you on the monday morning program as well. how would you categorize talks right now? is this a true stalemate? >> well, it's only a stalemate because speaker boehner, the republican leader, has not put his proposal on the table. as you know, the president has put his cards on the table. he presented a plan. you can find it on the internet. now it's time for speaker boehner to come forward. i should say that tomorrow in the house of representatives the democrats are going to file what's known as a discharge petition to bring
he used a similar tactic back in 2011 to talk about jobs and the economy. also remember during the payroll tax cut fight, senior administration officials tell me they have gotten more responses during this my2k hash tag initiative than in the past. that stands for $2,000, which is how much taxes would increase. john boehner says this is at a standoff. all sides need to come back to the table at some point to get progress anytime soon. tamron. >> let me bring in congressman chris van...
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i think it's bad for the economy, bad for job creation. ultimately by slowing down growth cuts revenue. i think the president need to come to the table with real entitlement reform. having said that, if we agree that taxes shouldn't go up on 98% of the people? shouldn't we take that now, set that aside, and i think we'll win the argument on the other areas. putting people at risk when we agree taxes shouldn't go up is something that we shouldn't do. >> speaker boehner said they need to stick to their position and freeze tax rates. i guess they believe that if you do what you are suggesting, you lose a lot of leverage at far as entitlement cuts and other spending cuts are concerned. how do you respond to that? >> i respect that but i don't agree with it. you don't use the american people as a hostage in a negotiating-type situation. i think at the end, this is the r rev ladies and gentlemen for the democrats not the republicans in this. my advice was given privately. i was asked what i thought. my position hasn't changed so i'm happy to tal
i think it's bad for the economy, bad for job creation. ultimately by slowing down growth cuts revenue. i think the president need to come to the table with real entitlement reform. having said that, if we agree that taxes shouldn't go up on 98% of the people? shouldn't we take that now, set that aside, and i think we'll win the argument on the other areas. putting people at risk when we agree taxes shouldn't go up is something that we shouldn't do. >> speaker boehner said they need to...
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what that does, it lifts the cloud of default over the economy. the president has increased the debt limit. congress has a chance to express approval of that. it's a very smart way by the senator with impeccable credentials to lift this threat. >> you said that he never intended it to be permanent? >> but, again, it was a good idea then, it's a good idea going forward. it came from him. it wasn't our idea. that makes a lot of sense. what you said that wasn't quite right, what we laid out for them was, a detailed set of reforms in health programs, government programs over ten years, which are going to be tough, but we think they make sense. they don't like all those changes, they might want to go beyond that. but they have to tell us what those things are. you're right on the revenue side. we're proposing to let the rates go back to clinton levels. that would be a good thing to do as a sensible economic policy, and we want to combine that with tax reforms that will limit deductions. there's no surprise in this. we have been proposing this for a ver
what that does, it lifts the cloud of default over the economy. the president has increased the debt limit. congress has a chance to express approval of that. it's a very smart way by the senator with impeccable credentials to lift this threat. >> you said that he never intended it to be permanent? >> but, again, it was a good idea then, it's a good idea going forward. it came from him. it wasn't our idea. that makes a lot of sense. what you said that wasn't quite right, what we...
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it will eventually cost us jobs and eventually slow the economy. that's going to cost us revenue as well. i don't agree with the president on that point. frankly, i think he needs to be a lot more specific about putting spending cuts and entitlement reform on the table. having said that, though, if the president's willing to accept 80% of the bush tax cuts for 98% of the american people and make them permanent, that's a point we should agree on, do that, and continue to fight for the things we believe in, simply because we accept that part of his offer doesn't mean we have to agree with the rest. but what i think a lot of people forget is, look, these tax rates are going up automatically unless congress acts. i favor acting to save as many of them as possible. >> makes sense. here's today, the speaker of the house john boehner signaled you out for your remarks on the compromise. let's listen to what you he said about you, sir. >> i told tom earlier in our conference meeting that i disagreed with him. you're not going to grow the economy if you rais
it will eventually cost us jobs and eventually slow the economy. that's going to cost us revenue as well. i don't agree with the president on that point. frankly, i think he needs to be a lot more specific about putting spending cuts and entitlement reform on the table. having said that, though, if the president's willing to accept 80% of the bush tax cuts for 98% of the american people and make them permanent, that's a point we should agree on, do that, and continue to fight for the things we...
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and now to john boehner. >> -- sending the economy over the fiscal cliff. two weeks ago we had a very productive conversation at the white house. based on where we stand today, i would say two things. first, despite claims that the president supports a balanced approach, democrats have yet to get serious about real spending cuts. and secondly, no substantive progress has been made in the talks between the white house and the house over the last two weeks. this is not a game. jobs are on the line. the american economy is on the line. and this is a moment for adult leadership. campaign style rallies and one-sided leaks in the press are nolts the way to get things done here in washington. majority leader and i just had a meeting with the treasury secretary. it was frank and it was direct. i was hopeful we'd see a specific plan for cutting spending. we sought to find out today what the president really is willing to do. i remain hopeful that productive conversations can be had in the days ahead. but the white house has to get serious. yesterday our leadership t
and now to john boehner. >> -- sending the economy over the fiscal cliff. two weeks ago we had a very productive conversation at the white house. based on where we stand today, i would say two things. first, despite claims that the president supports a balanced approach, democrats have yet to get serious about real spending cuts. and secondly, no substantive progress has been made in the talks between the white house and the house over the last two weeks. this is not a game. jobs are on...
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don't put the economy through again. he's already preparing for that. >> the people who really get stuff done in washington, the business lobby, the defense lobby. now here is the difference. the difference with this dynamic, the hostage takers last time have been taken hostage, right? the people who are prepared to bust through all of these moments and really go over the cliff are the democrats. they don't mind taxes. you've got a different dynamic just because who is willing to go through the deadline? >> errol, the president will meet with those ceos. how many will look and say, you know what, hey, buddy, you stink at running negotiations. will you get into a room and work this out? enough of this public posturing. it's absurd. >> they won't say it to his face obviously. >> they'll tell it to other people. they ought to. >> when you're in the beltway, in the bubble, you realize things aren't quite as simple as all of that and things have to go through. there is this tremor, i think, going through state and local gover
don't put the economy through again. he's already preparing for that. >> the people who really get stuff done in washington, the business lobby, the defense lobby. now here is the difference. the difference with this dynamic, the hostage takers last time have been taken hostage, right? the people who are prepared to bust through all of these moments and really go over the cliff are the democrats. they don't mind taxes. you've got a different dynamic just because who is willing to go...
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this exacts the economy. the uncertainty is creating havoc with our economy and our states. >> well, the bipartisan delegation of governors wrapped up their meetings at the white house a few hourgz ago a. they plan to meet with republican leaders this afternoon and have made one thing clear. they're not taking sides in this one. >> our focus today was not to endorse a specific plan nor to dismiss a specific plan but rather to point out as gary mentioned as governors we think it's important we have a seat at the table. >> joining us now is two governors that attended that meeting, chairman of the national governors association jack merkel as well as oklahoma's republican governor the group's vice chair. thaw for joining us. governor fallon, i'll start off with you. we heard scott walker in there. why not take a side here? >> well, we have 50 different states. we have governors that have different political philosophies. what we're trying to find is common ground, some collaboration between the national governo
this exacts the economy. the uncertainty is creating havoc with our economy and our states. >> well, the bipartisan delegation of governors wrapped up their meetings at the white house a few hourgz ago a. they plan to meet with republican leaders this afternoon and have made one thing clear. they're not taking sides in this one. >> our focus today was not to endorse a specific plan nor to dismiss a specific plan but rather to point out as gary mentioned as governors we think it's...
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it's important to go out and shop, important to stimulate the economy. if we're going to pick a store, let's go to costco which is known for treating its workers better than basically any general retailer in the country. i've been covering labor for a few years for "the new york times" and a few years ago, several people were saying, you should take a look at costco. they really do remarkable job in how they treat their workers. so i went out to their headquarters in washington. i spent a day with that gentleman next to biden, mr. sinegal, co-founder of the company. his father was a steelworker. he grew up in pittsburgh. i figured he was sympathetic to unions. he grew up catholic. he said, no, no, that's not why i treat our workers well. we're not the little sisters of the poor. he said it's good business. he said treating workers well mean they work hard for you, there's far less turnover. the typical costco worker who's been there more than a year stays on average 17 years. costco is known for having far less theft than most retailers. and he says when
it's important to go out and shop, important to stimulate the economy. if we're going to pick a store, let's go to costco which is known for treating its workers better than basically any general retailer in the country. i've been covering labor for a few years for "the new york times" and a few years ago, several people were saying, you should take a look at costco. they really do remarkable job in how they treat their workers. so i went out to their headquarters in washington. i...
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. >> we absolutely want to avoid going over the fiscal cliff because it would be a big drag on the economy. >> but are you willing to do that? >> what we're willing to do is come up with a package that both accelerates economic recovery, but also begins to reduce the long term deficit and the president's been very clear that that means asking higher income earn eaers to pay who are. more. so the real question is whether republicans will agree with tom cole who the other day said we should agree with the president. so let's get that done. let's not hold the middle class hostage to getting a bonus tax break for folks at the top. so it was great to hear tom come forward on that. obviously he's taken some heat within his caucus, but that would obviously avoid the fiscal cliff. >> congressman chriss van hollen, thanks so much. appreciate it. >>> so he mentioned tom cole. let me play what he had to say. >> the president is willing to accept 80% of the bush tax cuts for 9d 8% of the american peopl and make them permanent, we should do that and continue to fight for the things we believe in. >> so
. >> we absolutely want to avoid going over the fiscal cliff because it would be a big drag on the economy. >> but are you willing to do that? >> what we're willing to do is come up with a package that both accelerates economic recovery, but also begins to reduce the long term deficit and the president's been very clear that that means asking higher income earn eaers to pay who are. more. so the real question is whether republicans will agree with tom cole who the other day...
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that can drag our entire economy down. the good news is there is a better option -- right now, as we speak, congress can pass a law that would prevent a tax hike, the first $250,000 of everybody's income. everybody -- that means that 98% of america and 97% of small businesses would not see their taxes go up by a single dime. 98% of americans, a 97% of small businesses would not see their income taxes increased. even the wealthiest americans would still get a tax cut, the first $250,000 of their income. it is not like folks who make more than that are not getting a tax break -- they are getting a tax break on the first $250,000 like everybody else. families and small businesses will be able to enjoy some peace of mind heading into christmas and the new year. it will give us more time next year to work together on a comprehensive plan to bring down our deficits, streamline our tax system, and do it in a balanced way. including asking the wealthiest americans to pay a little more so we can still invest in things like educatio
that can drag our entire economy down. the good news is there is a better option -- right now, as we speak, congress can pass a law that would prevent a tax hike, the first $250,000 of everybody's income. everybody -- that means that 98% of america and 97% of small businesses would not see their taxes go up by a single dime. 98% of americans, a 97% of small businesses would not see their income taxes increased. even the wealthiest americans would still get a tax cut, the first $250,000 of their...
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. >> but why would you cut spending then, spending that's supposed to encourage the economy to get better so you get more growth and get rid of your deficits? >> i think -- well, i think we should, one -- first of all, we have to pay down the debt he ran up. we're spending $1 trillion more each year, the federal government -- we, the federal government is spending $1 trillion more each year than when obama walked into office. it's that overspending we need to bring down. raising taxes doesn't solve the overspending problem. it feeds it. and, again, we have been through this lucy and the football thing in '82, in '90. we didn't take the advice of the tax increase last year, and we got spending restraint for the debt ceiling. remember, the republican house has a tremendous power over the debt ceiling. so all this stuff about how we have to bend to the emperor's will isn't true. >> all right. grover norquist, thanks very much. we appreciate yourtation the time tonight. let's bring in james carville and rihan salaam. good to see you. grover norquist is not bending. not yet. >> well, president
. >> but why would you cut spending then, spending that's supposed to encourage the economy to get better so you get more growth and get rid of your deficits? >> i think -- well, i think we should, one -- first of all, we have to pay down the debt he ran up. we're spending $1 trillion more each year, the federal government -- we, the federal government is spending $1 trillion more each year than when obama walked into office. it's that overspending we need to bring down. raising...
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the conditions have changed, the economy has changed, i think the outlook in the picture has changed. that's part of the reason the president is so firm about not going back to the debt ceiling conversation again and creating that level of instability and not bending on this issue of raisings the rates on the top 2%. >> yeah. i think -- >> go ahead. >> it's an important point. i think the american people are seeing that the president has already agreed to more than a year ago to that $1 trillion of cuts. that was 100% in cuts as part of the budget control act and he's always said we need a balanced approach. we can't do it through cuts alone. he has proposed additional cuts as part of the process but you need to have that revenue component to have the balanced approach. he has been insistent that we help our infrastructure and help the things that move the economy forward and it's interesting that republicans are so focused on this bonus tax break for 3 million americans but they have opposed or certainly been silent on the idea of extending for one year the payroll tax cut that benef
the conditions have changed, the economy has changed, i think the outlook in the picture has changed. that's part of the reason the president is so firm about not going back to the debt ceiling conversation again and creating that level of instability and not bending on this issue of raisings the rates on the top 2%. >> yeah. i think -- >> go ahead. >> it's an important point. i think the american people are seeing that the president has already agreed to more than a year ago...
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economy and they all know it. there is no country in the world for the people in charge do not understand that they benefit from a strong, dependable, secure u.s. economy and energy is the key, i think. >> christine, can i just say something here? i think one program we have done in securing american pricing energy and is something of note that many of us have seen. i think it speaks to several key messages. just as we did in 2005, they're just as relevant today when we were importing 60% vs. 40% and continuing to go down. they also fall along what senator blunt said house well. but you see from when we have the oil crisis, there is no such thing as energy independence. some fear we define the problem as energy independence and it is all about imported oil. but then we solve a problem. we have been saying we needed to end our dependence on foreign oil, but the truth is we have a dependence on oil and any thing that happens anywhere in the world affects us here. if we miss diagnose the problem, we come up with the
economy and they all know it. there is no country in the world for the people in charge do not understand that they benefit from a strong, dependable, secure u.s. economy and energy is the key, i think. >> christine, can i just say something here? i think one program we have done in securing american pricing energy and is something of note that many of us have seen. i think it speaks to several key messages. just as we did in 2005, they're just as relevant today when we were importing 60%...
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this will only hurt our economy. ernst and young has done an analysis of the president's proposal and said it will cost several hundreds thousands of jobs. there is a better way and the speaker has laid it out. it is an approach that calls for tax reform by reforming the tax code and passing responsible spending cuts in order to get our fiscal house in order. that's what america wants. this is our opportunity to do the big things. this is our moment to provide that leadership that america desperately wants and we stand here ready to take the action necessary. >> the american people are hurting right now and now is the moment where we need to step up to the plate and solve the problem. i don't know how any of us can look our kids and grandkids in the eye and explain to them that we aren't willing to pay for the things we are enjoying today but just going to send them the bill. that's why republicans have the proposal on the table that fixes the problem, puts us on the course to solve the problem, which is the out-of-
this will only hurt our economy. ernst and young has done an analysis of the president's proposal and said it will cost several hundreds thousands of jobs. there is a better way and the speaker has laid it out. it is an approach that calls for tax reform by reforming the tax code and passing responsible spending cuts in order to get our fiscal house in order. that's what america wants. this is our opportunity to do the big things. this is our moment to provide that leadership that america...
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the american economy is on the line. and this is a moment for adult leadership. >> to talk all things politics, we bring in nick from the "new york times." politico is reporting today boehner and the president had a curt phone call. that's curt with a "c." should we be reading something into that? >> you almost can't tell what's happening by looking at the president and jay carney and speaker boehner are saying. you have to look further out and see where the ripples are. really when boehner's talking and when the president is talking, they are talking to their members in congress. so it's members you have to look at. obviously, there are teams of economists and policy experts behind the scenes that are crafting all kinds of compromises. it really comes down to the members, i think. >> let's talk about one of those members, representative tom cole, republican from oklahoma came out and said he thinks republicans should go ahead and pass what the president has proposed, basically extend the tax cuts for the middle class up
the american economy is on the line. and this is a moment for adult leadership. >> to talk all things politics, we bring in nick from the "new york times." politico is reporting today boehner and the president had a curt phone call. that's curt with a "c." should we be reading something into that? >> you almost can't tell what's happening by looking at the president and jay carney and speaker boehner are saying. you have to look further out and see where the...
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. >> not only do immigrants help build our economy, they invigorate our soul. america can be a lawful society and a welcoming society at the same time. as our nation debates the proper course of action relating to immigration, i hope we do so with a benevolent spirit and keep in mind the contribution of immigrants. >> it's a very interesting reminder. jeb bush, of course, has been very outspoken but there is a different wing of the republican party. >> we george w. bush talk about taking a softer line on immigration the day after republicans in the senate refused to ratify a treaty on discrimination against disabled people. those are two different courses for the republican party and i see one thing that strikes me, you have george w. bush here, robert dole, another former presidential nominee on the floor of the state. the party is moving on. these are not the most powerful voices in the party. the speeches we heard yesterday from marco rubio and paul ryan are i think more influential when trying to look at where is the republican party going to go. >> and, in
. >> not only do immigrants help build our economy, they invigorate our soul. america can be a lawful society and a welcoming society at the same time. as our nation debates the proper course of action relating to immigration, i hope we do so with a benevolent spirit and keep in mind the contribution of immigrants. >> it's a very interesting reminder. jeb bush, of course, has been very outspoken but there is a different wing of the republican party. >> we george w. bush talk...
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economy. i think consumers are where it's at. we just got to get over this fiscal cliff thing. >> jonathan capehart. >> i learned president morsi of egypt is fanatical about "planet of the apes." >> that is really all you need to know. jonathan, thank you so much. rana, steve, michael and everybody, thank you for watching today. if it's "way too early," it's "morning joe." chuck todd is next with "the daily rundown." >>> together again. mitt romney makes his way to the white house. it's not exactly the way he wanted to get there. but can something constructive come out of a private lunch between president obama and the man he defeated just three weeks ago? that's right. that was just three weeks ago. >>> also this morning, a deep dive into america's longest war. look into lessons learned and the sacrifices made by troops at one combat outpost. tell us about what's been accomplished and what's not in more than a decade of fighting. as the country wakes up obsessed with numbers and winners, for the lottery, that, we've got a very i
economy. i think consumers are where it's at. we just got to get over this fiscal cliff thing. >> jonathan capehart. >> i learned president morsi of egypt is fanatical about "planet of the apes." >> that is really all you need to know. jonathan, thank you so much. rana, steve, michael and everybody, thank you for watching today. if it's "way too early," it's "morning joe." chuck todd is next with "the daily rundown." >>>...
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you are having some potential impact on the entire economy. obviously, toys and other things, as well. >> the president's plan calls for raising the tax rates on americans earning $250,000 or more. most republicans remain dead set against the president's plan. >> that's true. i think, though, we have to take a look at the larger context. the larger context is we have a math problem. we have $2.5 trillion that we're taking in every year on the federal government and $3.5 trillion that we're spending. so, we're going to need a balanced approach of both revenue and spending cuts to teat there. so, that's what the president has been talking about and certainly something i can support. >> "the wall street journal" today senior administration officials say the white house not making any new offers until republicans change their opposition to raising top tax rates in this country. as a businessman, that would be directly affected by an impasse like that, as would millions of americans. how do you feel about that? >> how i feel, i'm 100% confident we'
you are having some potential impact on the entire economy. obviously, toys and other things, as well. >> the president's plan calls for raising the tax rates on americans earning $250,000 or more. most republicans remain dead set against the president's plan. >> that's true. i think, though, we have to take a look at the larger context. the larger context is we have a math problem. we have $2.5 trillion that we're taking in every year on the federal government and $3.5 trillion...
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it has done nothing to take our economy into a better shape. it was the bush tax cuts and the wars that drove us into this huge deficit that we have now. not the republicans' entitlements for this country and then we have neglected this country and the people of this country. we could have created jobs 10 times over. you have vets that are going to be coming back here, and where are the jobs for them? we have focused so much on these wars we got quagmired into, obama has been trying to get us out of them for the last four years. all the republicans have done for the last four years is say no, no, no to any kind of -- and obama has tried to push through bills to cut taxes for job creators, fo. host: for small businesses? caller: yes, for small businesses. host: here is reaction from senator lindsey gramm. he says this -- a republican from new jersey, go ahead. caller: i am calling in reference to this fiscal cliff. at this point, all the seniors are already in trouble. they are not going to get but a little increase. congress will automatically
it has done nothing to take our economy into a better shape. it was the bush tax cuts and the wars that drove us into this huge deficit that we have now. not the republicans' entitlements for this country and then we have neglected this country and the people of this country. we could have created jobs 10 times over. you have vets that are going to be coming back here, and where are the jobs for them? we have focused so much on these wars we got quagmired into, obama has been trying to get us...
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they weren't a damper on the economy. i think it fair that we go back to those rates. >> i understand not wanting to negotiate with yourselves but you have to negotiate with somebody. so -- yes or no -- would you settle for something lower than 36.9%? >> i don't want to say what my line would be. we have to make compromises. if the rates do come up whether they have to come up to precisely the way they were during the clinton administration it can be a subject for negotiation. >> for instance let me ask you specifically. would you favor support if you need to lowering the eligibility rate for medicare -- raising it rather. >> oh i don't think we should make changes to medicare. it's not responsible for the deficit and debts. neither is social security. you're right, medicare and social security have long-term fiscal challenges. they need to be dealt with. i don't agree with connect connecting those to the deficit and debt program not created by those programs. >> i want to switch gears. as a senior member of the house int
they weren't a damper on the economy. i think it fair that we go back to those rates. >> i understand not wanting to negotiate with yourselves but you have to negotiate with somebody. so -- yes or no -- would you settle for something lower than 36.9%? >> i don't want to say what my line would be. we have to make compromises. if the rates do come up whether they have to come up to precisely the way they were during the clinton administration it can be a subject for negotiation....
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that kind of agreement would be good for our businesses, good for our economy. it would be good for our children's future. i believe both parties can agree on a framework that does that in the coming weeks. in fact, my hope is to get this done before christmas. >> americans are divided a as to what the solution should be to reach some sort of agreement on the fiscal cliff. look at this abc news/washington post survey that says 60% of americans support raising taxes on the wealthy. 37% oppose it. what about reducing deductions? 44% support it. 49% oppose it. americans, much like lawmakers, want a solution to the problem but clearly divided on how to get there. >> the consensus is there to solve it. the question is how. president obama is meeting with mitt romney today. >> big news. >> do you have any idea what they plan to discuss? >> they are having lunch at the white house this afternoon. the president talked about this after his re-election. he said he wanted to sit down with mitt romney, talk about ways to move the country forward. but the president pointed o
that kind of agreement would be good for our businesses, good for our economy. it would be good for our children's future. i believe both parties can agree on a framework that does that in the coming weeks. in fact, my hope is to get this done before christmas. >> americans are divided a as to what the solution should be to reach some sort of agreement on the fiscal cliff. look at this abc news/washington post survey that says 60% of americans support raising taxes on the wealthy. 37%...
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i really believe if we solve this problem, the economy is going to take off. >> but solve it in a big way. don't you agree, governor? >> absolutely. >> we have to go big on this. >> we can't kick the can down the road. sorry we're taking the show over from you. >> i needed a breather, anyway, you're chairman of the fix the debt group. democrats at this point, do you think they are -- dealing seriously enough with entitlement reforms? >> i think some of them like senator durbin are, but there are a lot of people on left of our party, the progressive wing of the party, very progressive wing that haven't come to grips with what i said at the beginning and what susan echoed. that if we're going to ask the republicans to raise rates and raise, i think somewhere around $1.3 trillion in revenue, then we've got to give them something that their base cares about so they can do it. so they can actually make the deal and close the deal. i don't think we're aware of that yet. before all of us. >> i want to talk about susan rice, the u.s. ambassador to the u.n. possible nominee for secretary of st
i really believe if we solve this problem, the economy is going to take off. >> but solve it in a big way. don't you agree, governor? >> absolutely. >> we have to go big on this. >> we can't kick the can down the road. sorry we're taking the show over from you. >> i needed a breather, anyway, you're chairman of the fix the debt group. democrats at this point, do you think they are -- dealing seriously enough with entitlement reforms? >> i think some of them...
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it's a consumer-driven economy. about 70% of the economy is consumer driven. and the other thing the president put on the table, i understand, is refinancing proposal. >> right. >> where people trapped in 7%, 8% mortgages can go down to 4% and 5% mortgages have money in their pocket. these are responsible homeowners to spend out there. so the republicans, i think they're brooding. i think they're upset. i think they're in shock over this election. and they are behaving badly in this sense. we can join hands and take care of the tax cuts for 98% of the american people. can you imagine if i told you, we were in an argument and i gave you 98% of what you want, wouldn't you grab it? this doesn't make any sense to the folks out there. and that's why the courageous republicans like tom cole deserve a lot of credit. but their leaders don't have the message. i don't know what they want. they want a presidential election do-over? that isn't going to happen. this was one of the major issues in the election. let's get on with it and help the middle class, ask the wealthi
it's a consumer-driven economy. about 70% of the economy is consumer driven. and the other thing the president put on the table, i understand, is refinancing proposal. >> right. >> where people trapped in 7%, 8% mortgages can go down to 4% and 5% mortgages have money in their pocket. these are responsible homeowners to spend out there. so the republicans, i think they're brooding. i think they're upset. i think they're in shock over this election. and they are behaving badly in this...
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pro-growth policies that kickstart the economy rather than hurting the economy. likewise, we have laid out a bipartisan plan to address the drivers of our debt in the spending programs. i think house republicans are eager to work and negotiate with democrats in the senate and the president once they figure out what their proposal is to address the fundamental problems. >> my colleagues have laid out the issues very well. republicans want to avert the fiscal cleft in its entirety -- liff in its entirety. what we need is the president to come forward with a plan on how he wants to avert the fiscal cliff. it is irresponsible of us not to deal with the spending issue and simply to push for raising taxes on hard-working american people. many of us come from small- business backgrounds -- family owned businesses. we understand the situation very well. but it isn't -- it is important we not pass this problem along to our children and grandchildren, but we deal with it in a responsible way. the republicans have come forward with a responsible plan and will continue to do
pro-growth policies that kickstart the economy rather than hurting the economy. likewise, we have laid out a bipartisan plan to address the drivers of our debt in the spending programs. i think house republicans are eager to work and negotiate with democrats in the senate and the president once they figure out what their proposal is to address the fundamental problems. >> my colleagues have laid out the issues very well. republicans want to avert the fiscal cleft in its entirety -- liff...
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people blame barack obama and the state of the economy, health care, what have you. now in 2012 you come back and you beat the guy who beat you and you're back, soon to be, in congress. tell me what lessons you learned in 2012? what was in your mind in a swing state of new hampshire the 2012 election about and what does it carry forward? >> well, first, let me say in 2010 there was a lot of misinformation about health care and about other issues we were voting on. and so people were understandably frightened and now as the health care law is being carried out they recognize that this is a very consumer friendly law. and so that has changed. the issues in this past election the proper role of government, and i was running against the tea partier who wanted to shut down so much of government functions and people recognize that they really do want to have good government. but they do want efficient government and they want to make sure they're watching out for their tax dollars. they do want medicare, social security. they want those programs. they just want us to be fi
people blame barack obama and the state of the economy, health care, what have you. now in 2012 you come back and you beat the guy who beat you and you're back, soon to be, in congress. tell me what lessons you learned in 2012? what was in your mind in a swing state of new hampshire the 2012 election about and what does it carry forward? >> well, first, let me say in 2010 there was a lot of misinformation about health care and about other issues we were voting on. and so people were...
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we need to make sure the economy doesn't collapse. >> from egypt to israel now. we have secretary of state hillary clinton condemning both the vote in the u.n. recognizing palestine as a nonmember state and new settlements. which one is more of a road block to a two-state solution? >> the u.s. never really does get this issue despite our efforts to see if the sides will engage each other. israel and hamas have all been playing to their bases and flexing their muscles. it's against what long standing bipartisan the american presidents have called for. so the two-state solution is the goal. it's what majorities of both populations have asked for but they seem stuck. >> how dicey does the situation become if they build in an area that precludes a contiguous palestinian state? and this settlement would end up blocking a contiguous palestinian state. even many in israel have been concerned about this. the question of settlement construction is first and foremost an issue of israeli decision making but they need to be sensitive to the fact this does seem to be a respon
we need to make sure the economy doesn't collapse. >> from egypt to israel now. we have secretary of state hillary clinton condemning both the vote in the u.n. recognizing palestine as a nonmember state and new settlements. which one is more of a road block to a two-state solution? >> the u.s. never really does get this issue despite our efforts to see if the sides will engage each other. israel and hamas have all been playing to their bases and flexing their muscles. it's against...
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that would be bad for the economy. we both think, i believe, i hope, that we need to have a balanced agreement so we will not go over the cliff that would be bat for -- bad for the country, bad for the american people, we don't want to do that. the gentleman in my view doesn't not want to do that. put one way to give some confidence which is very important to the growth of the economy, is to assure, as tom cole, your former chairman of the republican campaign committee, said just the other day, and i believe you're -- in i believe your web meeting that he believes that this ought to be done. we ought to give the 98% assurances. we can debate and the prevailing side will win. but i don't think there's disagreement on the 98%. i think we agree on that as i said before the election and i said after the election, we need to move forward on that. that's something that i think -- on which you and i can agree, the democrats and republicans in this house can agree, that the senate an agree to. there was a bipartisan vote to le
that would be bad for the economy. we both think, i believe, i hope, that we need to have a balanced agreement so we will not go over the cliff that would be bat for -- bad for the country, bad for the american people, we don't want to do that. the gentleman in my view doesn't not want to do that. put one way to give some confidence which is very important to the growth of the economy, is to assure, as tom cole, your former chairman of the republican campaign committee, said just the other day,...
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the american economy is on the line. this is a moment for american leadership. it is the way ticket it done until washington. a mature0 lead and a had a meeting with his secretary. it was frank and d -- it was frank and direct. we saw to find out what the president is really willing to do. i remain hopeful that productive conversations can be made it into the it is ahead. elicited a leadership team met with a risk in bull's and leadership is above the business approach the warehouse as an annoyance. i have made clear that we have made the concessions on the line by putting ravenna's up front. many democrats grow up dozens of booklets that must be part of a sensible agreement that will reduce the deficit. there has been a sensible spending cuts so far. 2 there is a real danger of a2 and of222222222222222222222222222222 222222222222. 22222222222222222222222222222222 2222222222222222222222222 caught22222222222222222222222222 222222222222222222222222222222 job222222222222222. 22222222222222222222222222222222 22222222222222222222222222222222 2222222222222222222222222
the american economy is on the line. this is a moment for american leadership. it is the way ticket it done until washington. a mature0 lead and a had a meeting with his secretary. it was frank and d -- it was frank and direct. we saw to find out what the president is really willing to do. i remain hopeful that productive conversations can be made it into the it is ahead. elicited a leadership team met with a risk in bull's and leadership is above the business approach the warehouse as an...
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not good for the economy. we'll pass that. the senate's passed a bipartisan bill that called for that. tom cole the former chairman of the republican campaign committee in the house of representatives said just earlier this week we'll all pass that. i agree with him. secondly, the republicans have agreed that we need to have some sort of balance, more and more republicans are saying we need to have revenues. you cannot do it simply with cutting spending. thirdly, i don't think that anybody wants to hurt the vulnerable in america. >> no, i think -- but the question, the question here is, is on the issue of taxes for instance. the president proposed tax cuts -- i'm sorry tax increases that went beyond what they discussed before. raising the rate which would amount to $960 billion, then an additional $600 billion in tax increases that would go on the 2%. on the issues of spending, cuts, $400 billion in medicare and other entitlement savings but unspecified in next year not the specifics and not the amounts the republicans were lo
not good for the economy. we'll pass that. the senate's passed a bipartisan bill that called for that. tom cole the former chairman of the republican campaign committee in the house of representatives said just earlier this week we'll all pass that. i agree with him. secondly, the republicans have agreed that we need to have some sort of balance, more and more republicans are saying we need to have revenues. you cannot do it simply with cutting spending. thirdly, i don't think that anybody...